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****Official FroYo Rollout Thread-Version2!****

How long have you had the update? If it's still syncing then the radio is going overtime. Think of a tiny, tiny microwave in the back of the phone. If it's not syncing then it's possible the CPU is running at max speed for some unknown reason. Try turning the phone off, disconnecting the USB cable, letting it sit for a few minutes, then letting it charge fully before using it again. If you still have the same problem there might be an issue. You may need to do a factory reset, manually install the "clean" update from the circus thread, or take it to VZW and see if they're at all interested in the problem.

Just curious...is the "clean" update advantageous in some way in that it is somehow cleaner than the OTA update?
It replaces the installed OS instead of patching and hacking it into shape. This is analagous to upgrading a computer (which this is, only it makes phone calls). Upgrading versus a clean install.

The clean install means there's less chance of an error or garbled bit of code remaining behind leading to instability or lag.

Why do you say that the OTA is a patch rather than a replacement? Not challenging the concept - just seeking to understand the statement.

By the way, the manual update, by all appearances, seems to be working just fine. Still working through all the changes, but I like what I see thus far.
 
I know this might sound like a stupid question but when will Google fix the flash problem on the Android market and when should I look for the flash? Will it come in an update notice on my phone or will I have to look in the Android Market?
 
Flash's final build will be available on the market on the 18th according to a flier. It will not be included with the FRG01B, nor will you find it on the market. You have to install the .apk manually at the moment and it's in final Beta stages. If you want it, the link is available in numerous locations.
 
Well Verizon told me that the Flash will come out on the 18 of August and I'm still waiting. I'm just wondering why Adobe took their sweet time to take forever on the Flash Player. They should have worked on it a long time ago. I'm not going to risk getting any virus from the beta Flash player I'll just wait untill it comes out.
 
Well Verizon told me that the Flash will come out on the 18 of August and I'm still waiting. I'm just wondering why Adobe took their sweet time to take forever on the Flash Player. They should have worked on it a long time ago. I'm not going to risk getting any virus from the beta Flash player I'll just wait untill it comes out.
Flash requires an 800MHz processor to run on Linux. Android is Linux. Stock Droids run at 550 under 2.1 and 600MHz under 2.2. The new update will allow Flash to run smoother because it appears the FRG22 build comes with an 800MHz kernel. Stress on appears. I haven't verified this myself.

Risk a virus? Um, okay. I don't see the connection.
 
Why do you say that the OTA is a patch rather than a replacement? Not challenging the concept - just seeking to understand the statement.

Peter Alfonso

Others have looked at what the install does and have confirmed that it does, in fact, replace rather than patch.
I am confused, where does Peter Alfonso say that the OTA "patches" your system? He says it is a "complete" update that replaces your current OS.
Is the OTA not a "clean" update? In other words, is the file provided by the OP "better" than the OTA?
 
Confusion is understandable as this is a weird topic. There are two updates available; the basic OTA package that patches the existing OS in a traditional manner, and the other update that straight-up replaces it. There have been a lot of discussions over it in the circus thread.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ircus-continues-frg01b-official-get-here.html

The testing and examination done by a couple of people has lead them to the opinion that the larger file does a cleaner install, with fewer problems, and if the OTA caused some issues like lag and force-close problems, the larger update has invariably fixed them. There have been a few cases of install problems, but it seems a lower percentage of those using either manual install than for phones getting the update pushed to them from Verizon.
 
froyo

I know its not relevant but I am still waiting in texas, with a maryland number.

And I know I could do it myself, but if I start playing with my phone too much the floodgates will open.

Love the forum. Ive been reading it for a month or so.
 
I know its not relevant but I am still waiting in texas, with a maryland number.

And I know I could do it myself, but if I start playing with my phone too much the floodgates will open.

Love the forum. Ive been reading it for a month or so.
You mean....

root? :icon_eek:

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies!

Soon in a variety of Gingerbread flavors. :D

Just kidding. Hopefully it'll be down for you soon enough. :)
 
I know its not relevant but I am still waiting in texas, with a maryland number.

And I know I could do it myself, but if I start playing with my phone too much the floodgates will open.

Love the forum. Ive been reading it for a month or so.
You mean....

root? :icon_eek:

Come to the Dark Side. We have cookies!

Soon in a variety of Gingerbread flavors. :D

Just kidding. Hopefully it'll be down for you soon enough. :)


I know I will soon enough. Just a matter of time before I give in.
 
Confusion is understandable as this is a weird topic. There are two updates available; the basic OTA package that patches the existing OS in a traditional manner, and the other update that straight-up replaces it. There have been a lot of discussions over it in the circus thread.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ircus-continues-frg01b-official-get-here.html

The testing and examination done by a couple of people has lead them to the opinion that the larger file does a cleaner install, with fewer problems, and if the OTA caused some issues like lag and force-close problems, the larger update has invariably fixed them. There have been a few cases of install problems, but it seems a lower percentage of those using either manual install than for phones getting the update pushed to them from Verizon.

This is THE issue that thus far has held me back from manually updating.

Some say to use this file, which is 76.91 MB: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire

Others say to use this file, which is 45.2 MB:
update.zip

Why EGGZACTLY are there two different update files of two majorly different sizes?
Where did each one come from?
Which one is being pushed out OTA now by Verizon?
Which one is recommended for manual update?

I had a G1 which I rooted, so I know how to apply this update. I have chosen to keep my Droid stock. But as I said, I don't want to apply the wrong update. Can someone clear up this confusion over two different updates floating around? I'm sure it must be confusing to others besides myself.

Thanks much!
 
Confusion is understandable as this is a weird topic. There are two updates available; the basic OTA package that patches the existing OS in a traditional manner, and the other update that straight-up replaces it. There have been a lot of discussions over it in the circus thread.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ircus-continues-frg01b-official-get-here.html

The testing and examination done by a couple of people has lead them to the opinion that the larger file does a cleaner install, with fewer problems, and if the OTA caused some issues like lag and force-close problems, the larger update has invariably fixed them. There have been a few cases of install problems, but it seems a lower percentage of those using either manual install than for phones getting the update pushed to them from Verizon.

This is THE issue that thus far has held me back from manually updating.

Some say to use this file, which is 76.91 MB: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire

Others say to use this file, which is 45.2 MB:
update.zip

Why EGGZACTLY are there two different update files of two majorly different sizes?
Where did each one come from?
Which one is being pushed out OTA now by Verizon?
Which one is recommended for manual update?

I had a G1 which I rooted, so I know how to apply this update. I have chosen to keep my Droid stock. But as I said, I don't want to apply the wrong update. Can someone clear up this confusion over two different updates floating around? I'm sure it must be confusing to others besides myself.

Thanks much!
The bigger file has more scripts in it and replaces the system data on your phone with all new code. This has caused far fewer instances of lags and force closes on the phones it was installed on, even those updating from a bad OTA update that didn't lock the phone up.

The smaller file comes from the Google servers, the larger one from a very respected member of the Android community, and has been inspected by several other members to vouch for it. The file is signed. That means it works with stock recovery images. It's impossible (or at least has been so far) to fake a signature for an install. That's some heavy-duty verification the file is legit.

The smaller file is being pushed OTA to phones as we speak. It uses less system resource on VZW's end and 99% of users probably wouldn't care if their phone never got updated, so if the update on their phones isn't perfect, whatever.

The bigger one is recommended for manual updates because the reports on here indicate the smaller file doesn't do as good a job of updating when averaged out when compared to the larger file. As already stated, and this is the really big part here that might swing you, the larger file has been used numerous times to clean up a bad install or a completely-corrupted system from the smaller OTA update package.
 
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