again, people aren't using that much data. it's not happening. there is a huge group that is using less than 2GB, and then some small group using 50GB a month. those people should pay extra. i fail to see why people are upset about this. i think it's fair, not unfair. why should i, who uses no data at all, pay the same amount as someone using 20 times the amount i use?
If most people are not using that much data, then there really isn't a cost justification for the price increase, is there?
If it will hardly effect many people, then why do it?
I think that 2GB is too low for the basic plan, because as I said, watching one full lenfth movie per week on Netflix will put you over that easily.
On today's phones, with things like Netflix and YouTube and today's web content, 2GB in a month just isn't all that much data.
Hey, why not start charging fat people triple the charge at the all you can eat buffet?
I mean, most of us won't eat more than a plate or two, so if a fat guy comes in and wants to eat 5 plates, why not single him out and charge him 3 times whate everyone else pays?
According to your logic, that is fair, right?
The only solution right now is to evolve. You have time to get it right. Its one thing if Vzw said this plan was going to start tomorrow and everyone is forced into it. Its just like when you buy a new device or when you first bought an android device. It took you time to realize to turn every thing off when not in use and to lower display brightness to save battery. We all knew it was coming. For those living in an are where you can get high speed look and see if it would be cheaper to get it for the house, especially if you are a data intensive family. Turn wifi on when all possible. Don't leave auto sync on, it really is not that important for your phone to update every Facebook profile while its in your pocket. You don't need the weather to update every hour, before smart phones people looked outside or looked at the paper. Download songs and build up your mp3 player. There are ways you can get bye with out hogging data all the time. For those of you who are on the road a lot I will have to agree that this is going to be hard on you. Its not like you can put a wifi antenna on the hood of your semi truck.
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We are not hogging data. We are using the phone as it was designed to be used, and for the things that it was marketed to us by the carrier.
They sold us on the benefits of the smart phone. They sold us on the benefits of paying extra for the unlimited data plan. They sold us on getting the high end phone so that we could stream audio and video, browse the web, play games, etc...
All of these things are things that THEY marketed and sold to US, and we paid top dollar for them, getting the most expensive phones, paying for the most expensive data plans, locking in long term contracts, etc...
And now they are crying that some people actually stream video and audio, and browse the web and use the data the way it was sold to us?
again, people aren't using that much data. it's not happening. there is a huge group that is using less than 2GB, and then some small group using 50GB a month. those people should pay extra. i fail to see why people are upset about this. i think it's fair, not unfair. why should i, who uses no data at all, pay the same amount as someone using 20 times the amount i use?
If most people are not using that much data, then there really isn't a cost justification for the price increase, is there?
If it will hardly effect many people, then why do it?
I think that 2GB is too low for the basic plan, because as I said, watching one full lenfth movie per week on Netflix will put you over that easily.
On today's phones, with things like Netflix and YouTube and today's web content, 2GB in a month just isn't all that much data.
again...business. why wouldn't they do it? what logical reason would a company have for not doing what they're doing? you've already said they're greedy and they're going to get free money from this. so if that's true, why wouldn't they do it?
if the customer could save a ton of money vs verizon saving a very little amount of money, they will always go with themselves saving a very little. no company on the planet would go the other way.
I understand why they do it. Any chance to screw your customers and charge them double while not giving them anything for that increase is good for the bottom line. If they could charge you for breathing, they would.
What I don't understand is why people like you are so willing to just accept that you are going to get screwed and give them what they want.
It's like a woman getting raped, and deciding to make the guy a sandwich and do his laundry while he does it. LOL
The only solution right now is to evolve. You have time to get it right. Its one thing if Vzw said this plan was going to start tomorrow and everyone is forced into it. Its just like when you buy a new device or when you first bought an android device. It took you time to realize to turn every thing off when not in use and to lower display brightness to save battery. We all knew it was coming. For those living in an are where you can get high speed look and see if it would be cheaper to get it for the house, especially if you are a data intensive family. Turn wifi on when all possible. Don't leave auto sync on, it really is not that important for your phone to update every Facebook profile while its in your pocket. You don't need the weather to update every hour, before smart phones people looked outside or looked at the paper. Download songs and build up your mp3 player. There are ways you can get bye with out hogging data all the time. For those of you who are on the road a lot I will have to agree that this is going to be hard on you. Its not like you can put a wifi antenna on the hood of your semi truck.
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We are not hogging data. We are using the phone as it was designed to be used, and for the things that it was marketed to us by the carrier.
They sold us on the benefits of the smart phone. They sold us on the benefits of paying extra for the unlimited data plan. They sold us on getting the high end phone so that we could stream audio and video, browse the web, play games, etc...
All of these things are things that THEY marketed and sold to US, and we paid top dollar for them, getting the most expensive phones, paying for the most expensive data plans, locking in long term contracts, etc...
And now they are crying that some people actually stream video and audio, and browse the web and use the data the way it was sold to us?
Hey, why not start charging fat people triple the charge at the all you can eat buffet?
I mean, most of us won't eat more than a plate or two, so if a fat guy comes in and wants to eat 5 plates, why not single him out and charge him 3 times whate everyone else pays?
According to your logic, that is fair, right?
if a fat dude goes to a buffet and sits there all day and eats all the food, they'll tell him to get out. rightly so. i think some common sense needs to be exercised in situations like this. the buffet is not your personal chef to just sit there and eat all their food. it's far more unfair for the skinny people (haha are we really making these stupid analogies), then for the one fat dude who wants to eat 40 plates.
...i hate these buffet analogies haha
again...business. why wouldn't they do it? what logical reason would a company have for not doing what they're doing? you've already said they're greedy and they're going to get free money from this. so if that's true, why wouldn't they do it?
if the customer could save a ton of money vs verizon saving a very little amount of money, they will always go with themselves saving a very little. no company on the planet would go the other way.
I understand why they do it. Any chance to screw your customers and charge them double while not giving them anything for that increase is good for the bottom line. If they could charge you for breathing, they would.
What I don't understand is why people like you are so willing to just accept that you are going to get screwed and give them what they want.
It's like a woman getting raped, and deciding to make the guy a sandwich and do his laundry while he does it. LOL
what other choice do you have? sprint? they're going to go tiered too. some crappy carrier with no coverage? i guess you can do that if you want to prove a point.
i personally think people just need something to complain about. i dont think i'm getting "screwed". this is not going to affect me in anyway, at all. if i'm grandfathered, i get my unlimited. if i'm not, i still pay $30/month because i'm not suddenly going to use 40GB a month. i'm not getting screwed, and neither is 95% of the smartphone world. the people who are getting "screwed" are the ones who should pay more for what they use.
you guys are just upset because you have to pay for using more data. that's all it is. in your minds that equates to being screwed. but yet, and i'll ask again, where does something like this NOT happen? where can you get more of something for the same price as people who get less? why is this such a crazy unbelievable concept to people?
Hey, why not start charging fat people triple the charge at the all you can eat buffet?
I mean, most of us won't eat more than a plate or two, so if a fat guy comes in and wants to eat 5 plates, why not single him out and charge him 3 times whate everyone else pays?
According to your logic, that is fair, right?
We are not hogging data. We are using the phone as it was designed to be used, and for the things that it was marketed to us by the carrier.
They sold us on the benefits of the smart phone. They sold us on the benefits of paying extra for the unlimited data plan. They sold us on getting the high end phone so that we could stream audio and video, browse the web, play games, etc...
All of these things are things that THEY marketed and sold to US, and we paid top dollar for them, getting the most expensive phones, paying for the most expensive data plans, locking in long term contracts, etc...
And now they are crying that some people actually stream video and audio, and browse the web and use the data the way it was sold to us?
again, people aren't using that much data. it's not happening. there is a huge group that is using less than 2GB, and then some small group using 50GB a month. those people should pay extra. i fail to see why people are upset about this. i think it's fair, not unfair. why should i, who uses no data at all, pay the same amount as someone using 20 times the amount i use?
Because the word "unlimited" means zero to infinity. There aren't any numbers associated with it. I understand that most in the category is under 2 GB when it comes to data usage. So yes, to people in your situation then yes it is fair for tiered systems. In my case I use my phone for normal daily functions and occasional Pandora streaming and i use around 3 GB monthly. Sometimes a little more and sometimes a little less. To me it is not fair. To make it fair for everyone they should not use "tiers or unlimited" at all. Pay by MB and there you go.
I am not at all angry with anyone that posts in this thread. You just can't group everyone in one category. I am guilty by association only.
I understand why they do it. Any chance to screw your customers and charge them double while not giving them anything for that increase is good for the bottom line. If they could charge you for breathing, they would.
What I don't understand is why people like you are so willing to just accept that you are going to get screwed and give them what they want.
It's like a woman getting raped, and deciding to make the guy a sandwich and do his laundry while he does it. LOL
what other choice do you have? sprint? they're going to go tiered too. some crappy carrier with no coverage? i guess you can do that if you want to prove a point.
i personally think people just need something to complain about. i dont think i'm getting "screwed". this is not going to affect me in anyway, at all. if i'm grandfathered, i get my unlimited. if i'm not, i still pay $30/month because i'm not suddenly going to use 40GB a month. i'm not getting screwed, and neither is 95% of the smartphone world. the people who are getting "screwed" are the ones who should pay more for what they use.
you guys are just upset because you have to pay for using more data. that's all it is. in your minds that equates to being screwed. but yet, and i'll ask again, where does something like this NOT happen? where can you get more of something for the same price as people who get less? why is this such a crazy unbelievable concept to people?
It doesn't cost Verizon more whether you use 500MB, or 10GB. They don't pay per gig, so the customer is indeed getting screwed.
SquireSCA;1594207 what other choice do you have? sprint? they're going to go tiered too. some crappy carrier with no coverage? i guess you can do that if you want to prove a point. i personally think people just need something to complain about. i dont think i'm getting "screwed". this is not going to affect me in anyway said:Why SHOULD they pay more? I mean, we are not talking about someone abusing things and taking up 100GB a month.
We are talking about 2GB on what was an UNLIMITED plan. 2GB, as I have pointed out 5 times now, isn't that much. Netflix eats that up at a rate of 2 hours per week.
So people that use data like me, are getting screwed, because 2GB is not abusing an UNLIMITED plan.
I am simply sick and tired of businesses and government trying to rape the people for every penny they can. We pay a lot in taxes, we pay sales tax, payroll taxes, property taxes, taxes on gasoline, etc... And now they want to start charging you every year based on how many miles you drove? By driving more, am I not already paying more gasoline taxes than the person who only drives 50 miles a week?
My point, is when does it end? When the average American, buy the time we are done with all the taxes, pays in excess of 50% of our wages in taxes, and yet we are told that it isn't enough, we have to pay more, even though I am not getting any extra benefit from it. Someone else just decided that they wanted more money and so they point a gun at my head and demand it. We work from January 1 to July 1, for free. For the first 6 months of every year, we don't make a single dime. It all goes to pay our tax burden. Only after July do we get to keep anything. And still they want more.
The same thing is happening to a large extent here. Phones and smart phones were gadgets and more of a luxury at one time. Now that they are so firmly entrenched in our daily lives and business, they know that we cannot let them go. So they seek ways to just keep charging more and more without actually giving us anything more for our dollar.
So like government, when does it end?
How much is enough? When your phone starts costing more than your electric bill or your car payment, will that be enough?
Hey, why not start charging fat people triple the charge at the all you can eat buffet?
I mean, most of us won't eat more than a plate or two, so if a fat guy comes in and wants to eat 5 plates, why not single him out and charge him 3 times whate everyone else pays?
According to your logic, that is fair, right?
if a fat dude goes to a buffet and sits there all day and eats all the food, they'll tell him to get out. rightly so. i think some common sense needs to be exercised in situations like this. the buffet is not your personal chef to just sit there and eat all their food. it's far more unfair for the skinny people (haha are we really making these stupid analogies), then for the one fat dude who wants to eat 40 plates.
...i hate these buffet analogies haha
That's why I use them, I have a good memory. ;-)
But all kidding aside, they buffet knows that most people will eat a plate or two, and the occasional fatty will eat more. They know the averages and that for every fat person eating 5 plates, there are 5 thin women who just pick at one plate. So they look at the total being eaten, figure out their margins and price it accordingly.
So whst VZW has been doing has been standing outside, urging people to come in, telling them about all the amazing food they can eat as much of as they want, etc... And when some people come in and eat 5 plates, they get pissy about it and demand more money, to a magnitude of 3?
Just seems cheezy to me, that's all.
Hey, why not start charging fat people triple the charge at the all you can eat buffet?
I mean, most of us won't eat more than a plate or two, so if a fat guy comes in and wants to eat 5 plates, why not single him out and charge him 3 times whate everyone else pays?
According to your logic, that is fair, right?
I got to admit I got a little laugh out the fat comment.
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welcome to the world. i mean again, i dont understand the shock and awe. go to the store and look at the $50 t-shirt. that's not fair is it? or the $250 sneakers? how fair is that, that thing probably cost 10 cents to make.
the customer, by your logic, is getting "screwed" in every aspect of their lives, and should just be naked (clothes are overpriced) without technology (all gadgets are overpriced) and living on the street (rent is overpriced). gimme a break.
i guess i just dont understand why people are so up in arms about this, but not about every other thing in the world haha
