[Updated] Verizon To Officially Reveal Tiered Data Plans July 7th; Plans Leaked Below

[czerdrill]

Why SHOULD they pay more? I mean, we are not talking about someone abusing things and taking up 100GB a month.

We are talking about 2GB on what was an UNLIMITED plan. 2GB, as I have pointed out 5 times now, isn't that much. Netflix eats that up at a rate of 2 hours per week.

So people that use data like me, are getting screwed, because 2GB is not abusing an UNLIMITED plan.

I am simply sick and tired of businesses and government trying to rape the people for every penny they can. We pay a lot in taxes, we pay sales tax, payroll taxes, property taxes, taxes on gasoline, etc... And now they want to start charging you every year based on how many miles you drove? By driving more, am I not already paying more gasoline taxes than the person who only drives 50 miles a week?

My point, is when does it end? When the average American, buy the time we are done with all the taxes, pays in excess of 50% of our wages in taxes, and yet we are told that it isn't enough, we have to pay more, even though I am not getting any extra benefit from it. Someone else just decided that they wanted more money and so they point a gun at my head and demand it. We work from January 1 to July 1, for free. For the first 6 months of every year, we don't make a single dime. It all goes to pay our tax burden. Only after July do we get to keep anything. And still they want more.

The same thing is happening to a large extent here. Phones and smart phones were gadgets and more of a luxury at one time. Now that they are so firmly entrenched in our daily lives and business, they know that we cannot let them go. So they seek ways to just keep charging more and more without actually giving us anything more for our dollar.

So like government, when does it end?

How much is enough? When your phone starts costing more than your electric bill or your car payment, will that be enough?

I'm quoting you just to touch on a couple of points. I don't know what you do in your personal life, but think about what you said. That you're "sick and tired" of businesses and governments doing these things. now like i said, you very well might be out there talking about these companies and trying to make changes but thats not the case. most people are just whining.

like i said, it is most probably unfair for people like you who are simply using your phone the way you want to use it. but again, what choice do you have? really only 3. leave, don't leave, or complain and hope for a change. if everyone is choosing option 2, then whats the point of complaining. is everyone really upset, or just wasting their time venting to people who cant solve the problem for them? you can't say you're sick and tired, but then continue to give these companies business. seems counter-productive to me.

 

[jroc]

Well....I just checked my data use this month...

I'm sitting at 2.8GB.. My kids and their mother must have been using Youtube on it alot. I did use Netflix for about an hour or 2 total in the past few days. My kids mother has been using the web on it. The biggest amounts were the days I didnt use Youtube.

Damn...thank God I have unlimited....for now...

 

[esmier]

There is a Verizon leak that people with existing unlimited plans keep them for as long as they stay with Verizon

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[pc747]

Last Warning, make your point with out calling someone out.

 

[Cmking76]

actually buy affliction brand so i 85 for a shirt and 125 for jeans over priced yea but they didn't offer me unlimited jeans then say nah just kidding. and take it back that's the difference

 

[czerdrill]

Nothing is fair. But I proved you wrong when you said we aren't getting screwed, and when we used more, we should pay more.

Ok, we're getting screwed in every aspect of our lives. Can you link me to the other threads at clothes stores forums, the government sites and appliance forums where you've voiced the same concerns?

Like I said, people are just looking for a reason to whine. like i said...welcome to the world.

 

[czerdrill]

actually buy affliction brand so i 85 for a shirt and 125 for jeans over priced yea but they didn't offer me unlimited jeans then say nah just kidding. and take it back that's the difference

did verizon take away your unlimited? or are you just being overly dramatic?

 

[SquireSCA]

I'm quoting you just to touch on a couple of points. I don't know what you do in your personal life, but think about what you said. That you're "sick and tired" of businesses and governments doing these things. now like i said, you very well might be out there talking about these companies and trying to make changes but thats not the case. most people are just whining.

like i said, it is most probably unfair for people like you who are simply using your phone the way you want to use it. but again, what choice do you have? really only 3. leave, don't leave, or complain and hope for a change. if everyone is choosing option 2, then whats the point of complaining. is everyone really upset, or just wasting their time venting to people who cant solve the problem for them? you can't say you're sick and tired, but then continue to give these companies business. seems counter-productive to me.

For now, I will complain and point out why I think they are wrong. Online, or to friends that are considering VZW, etc...

If they change the plans and it effects me, I will terminate my contract and walk away and go to a carrier that offers unlimited plans. Sprint still does, and they have good service here in this market, and decent phones to pick from.

Or, I sitll think that another carrier will step up to the plate, because as time goes on, people are not going to want to pay an arm and a leg for a commodity. There will be a demand for a reasonably priced carrier, and someone will offer such a plan and scoop up a ton of subscriptions as a result.

 

[czerdrill]

welcome to the world. i mean again, i dont understand the shock and awe. go to the store and look at the $50 t-shirt. that's not fair is it? or the $250 sneakers? how fair is that, that thing probably cost 10 cents to make.

the customer, by your logic, is getting "screwed" in every aspect of their lives, and should just be naked (clothes are overpriced) without technology (all gadgets are overpriced) and living on the street (rent is overpriced). gimme a break.

i guess i just dont understand why people are so up in arms about this, but not about every other thing in the world haha

it is easy to not understand, when as you pointed out, it doesn't effect you.

Let's say that VZW does away with tiers and goes to a simple consumption fee. Using your logic, that is COMPLETELY fair, as everyone will simply pay for what they use.

And let's say they charge per MB, and as a result, even your modest usage gets you an average of a $200 phone bill each month for one phone on one line.

Will you be fine with that?

This is assuming that I'm made aware of the charges before signing up, right? If I calculate that with my current usage I'll be paying $200 a month, why would I sign up? I wouldn't. And I definitely wouldn't, complain every month, and continue paying.

Again, I'm just trying to understand the logic. If you truly feel something is unfair why do you keep supporting the company? Like I said, I think people just want a reason to complain.

And of course, if Verizon moved to pay per meg, obviously it would be priced so that it's affordable. Your hypothetical is not logical.

 

[czerdrill]

I'm quoting you just to touch on a couple of points. I don't know what you do in your personal life, but think about what you said. That you're "sick and tired" of businesses and governments doing these things. now like i said, you very well might be out there talking about these companies and trying to make changes but thats not the case. most people are just whining.

like i said, it is most probably unfair for people like you who are simply using your phone the way you want to use it. but again, what choice do you have? really only 3. leave, don't leave, or complain and hope for a change. if everyone is choosing option 2, then whats the point of complaining. is everyone really upset, or just wasting their time venting to people who cant solve the problem for them? you can't say you're sick and tired, but then continue to give these companies business. seems counter-productive to me.

For now, I will complain and point out why I think they are wrong. Online, or to friends that are considering VZW, etc...

If they change the plans and it effects me, I will terminate my contract and walk away and go to a carrier that offers unlimited plans. Sprint still does, and they have good service here in this market, and decent phones to pick from.

Or, I sitll think that another carrier will step up to the plate, because as time goes on, people are not going to want to pay an arm and a leg for a commodity. There will be a demand for a reasonably priced carrier, and someone will offer such a plan and scoop up a ton of subscriptions as a result.

That's fair. And when Sprint goes tiered? You will leave to another one. And then to another one. It's just a never ending cycle. As a company grows it's going to make adjustments. Just how the world works.

 

[faganm24]

New Information

Verizon's new data plans broken down in complete detail | Android Central

A larger screenshot of what was leaked yesterday, plus more details.

Now please stop arguing with each other over opinions...

 

[loki993]

i dont know, i hope for the sake of the people who want (not need) unlimited that its true. but i remember a couple of years back verizon voice plan switched from America's choice to Nationwide calling or some crap (pretty much the same voice plan, just a different name that cost more) and would tell you "your phone is not compatible with the old plan" and force you to switch to the new one. They could just do the same thing here.

In other words, grandfathering is not some privilege or something guaranteed. They can just say that your new device is incompatible with the new plan or something. They've done it before, so they could do it again.

i dont know, i hope for the sake of the people who want (not need) unlimited that its true. but i remember a couple of years back verizon voice plan switched from America's choice to Nationwide calling or some crap (pretty much the same voice plan, just a different name that cost more) and would tell you "your phone is not compatible with the old plan" and force you to switch to the new one. They could just do the same thing here.

In other words, grandfathering is not some privilege or something guaranteed. They can just say that your new device is incompatible with the new plan or something. They've done it before, so they could do it again.

I believe they only did that with the Voyager (and one or two other phone). So they didn't require everyone to switch.

I remember when they did that too. It wasnt just for the Voyager either, becasue it happend to me and my GF at the time and neither of us were getting a voyager, it was for any new phone.

if someone beat me to this then oh well not gonna search for it.

today i spoke to the Cell Rep at my Costco in Concord,Ca i asked him is it official about the new data plans he said YES! as of Monday morning (06/20/11) The new Tiered Plan has become official and will kick in 07/07/11.

Anyone who has the unlimited data plan WILL BE GRANDFATHERED IN!:icon_ banana:
Anyone who gets A NEW Contract or New Upgrade by 7/07/11 WILL BE GRANDFATHERED IN! dancedroid
Even if you get a new contract or upgrade on 7/06/11 with the unlimited data plan. you will be grandfathered in.

Anyone after 7/07/11 well sorry about your bad luck.

on another note. he said that their are reasons behind this new plan. he only told me the main two.

1. The main reason is due to the ROOTED users stealing with WiFi Tethering. supposedly their was an average of 10,000Gb a month being stolen with out payment.

2. the other reason is because Verizon did a study on how much ppl are actually using on the unlimited data plan and they found out that they use an average of 1-1.25GB a month. thats per user (besides ROOTED USER). so verizon decided that ppl are paying 30 a month and not even using it to the fullest and so thats how they came up with the Tiered Plan so that way you get your full moneys worth.

I know most of you are pissed about this, others dont care, and some are worried about upgrading their phone by the 7th. So all i have to say is deal with it. this is what happens when they do studies and ppl steal. its not gonna go anywhere for a while. so this is what i got so far anything else comes up i will let you know.

xXGH05TXx

What you have to realize is that the 1.1.25gb number is on 3G. Im willing to bet that number could easily be doubled once people start using 4g, its 10 times faster by Verizons claim. People will do more and download more simply becasue its faster. They wont do the same things they did before and its almost silly to think that they would. Verizon knows it will go up and theyre counting on it. Theyre constantly advertising about how fast their LTE network is and their superfast new 4g phones. how youll be able to do everything "at lightning speeds".


Its like being given the keys to a brand new Ferarri and then being told you can only drive it around the block.

 

[SquireSCA]

welcome to the world. i mean again, i dont understand the shock and awe. go to the store and look at the $50 t-shirt. that's not fair is it? or the $250 sneakers? how fair is that, that thing probably cost 10 cents to make.

the customer, by your logic, is getting "screwed" in every aspect of their lives, and should just be naked (clothes are overpriced) without technology (all gadgets are overpriced) and living on the street (rent is overpriced). gimme a break.

i guess i just dont understand why people are so up in arms about this, but not about every other thing in the world haha

it is easy to not understand, when as you pointed out, it doesn't effect you.

Let's say that VZW does away with tiers and goes to a simple consumption fee. Using your logic, that is COMPLETELY fair, as everyone will simply pay for what they use.

And let's say they charge per MB, and as a result, even your modest usage gets you an average of a $200 phone bill each month for one phone on one line.

Will you be fine with that?

This is assuming that I'm made aware of the charges before signing up, right? If I calculate that with my current usage I'll be paying $200 a month, why would I sign up? I wouldn't. And I definitely wouldn't, complain every month, and continue paying.

Again, I'm just trying to understand the logic. If you truly feel something is unfair why do you keep supporting the company? Like I said, I think people just want a reason to complain.

And of course, if Verizon moved to pay per meg, obviously it would be priced so that it's affordable. Your hypothetical is not logical.

Why do people like me "support" the company? Because they lock you in with a contract, so that when they don't deliver, or they do things that would cause you to leave, you have a "barrier to exit"...

If cell phone contrats were made illegal, you would see a vastly different landscape in this market, as companies would have to actually listen to customers, deliver good service, etc...

Now, once they get you signed up, they can pretty much do whatever they want, provide crappy service and all that, because you have to pay THEM to leave when THEY provided the poor service.

But as we have discussed before, if they tried to change my plan, I would simply toss the phone in the trash, go to Sprint and call it a day.

 

[Cmking76]

does anyone for sure we get to keep our unlimited or are some of us here camping on this tread attacking peoples post he or she might not Luke without any real knowledge behind them.
just saying

 

[NeoandGeo]

10TB of stolen data, even though those users purchased it. Seems like Verizon is complaining that people are smart enough to not pay twice for something. I will continue to pay once, and do what I want with the unlimited data that I paid for.