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VZW disabling tethering apps from market

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when your tethered PC goes and checks MS update, or your xbox logs on over tether you dont think verizon sees it?
it'd be really easy to isolate non android ip traffic from PC/mac/gaming system traffic, and compare it to a list of those that pay for tethering.

I would love to see a tiered dataos plan that allows you to actually use the data you buy however you want.

So why is it that there line of defense is to remove the apps from market, if they truly can tell who tethers and who doesn't why not shut them down?

The fact is they can't prove who does and doesn't.

Trust me if they knew all tethered phones would know it.

Like I said think what you want. Believe vzw when they say they know who you are.

Such mindless creatures.

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What do you think is cheaper? Sending an e-mail to each tetherer and field calls and e-mails of denials? Or pulling the tethering apps from the market and eventually pushing out an update to all phones to disable tethering apps and put up a paywall?
 
when your tethered PC goes and checks MS update, or your xbox logs on over tether you dont think verizon sees it?
it'd be really easy to isolate non android ip traffic from PC/mac/gaming system traffic, and compare it to a list of those that pay for tethering.

I would love to see a tiered dataos plan that allows you to actually use the data you buy however you want.

So why is it that there line of defense is to remove the apps from market, if they truly can tell who tethers and who doesn't why not shut them down?

The fact is they can't prove who does and doesn't.

Trust me if they knew all tethered phones would know it.

Like I said think what you want. Believe vzw when they say they know who you are.

Such mindless creatures.

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this goes back to my analogy about speeding...can the trooper pull you over for going 3 miles over the limit? sure he can. will he? no, probably not. Now wiz by him doing 125 and tossing beer cans from the window adn what happens?
Its not like he didn't see you speeding at 68, its just that hes got bigger fish to fry.

Different things. If a trooper is out to catch speeder then you will get a ticket.

Vzw is out to try and stop tethering, rooting. Chances are they are not going to say oh he is ok today. We will get him later.

No if they can prove you are doing it then they would shut you down and make an example out of you.

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when your tethered PC goes and checks MS update, or your xbox logs on over tether you dont think verizon sees it?
it'd be really easy to isolate non android ip traffic from PC/mac/gaming system traffic, and compare it to a list of those that pay for tethering.

I would love to see a tiered dataos plan that allows you to actually use the data you buy however you want.

So why is it that there line of defense is to remove the apps from market, if they truly can tell who tethers and who doesn't why not shut them down?

The fact is they can't prove who does and doesn't.

Trust me if they knew all tethered phones would know it.

Like I said think what you want. Believe vzw when they say they know who you are.

Such mindless creatures.

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What do you think is cheaper? Sending an e-mail to each tetherer and field calls and e-mails of denials? Or pulling the tethering apps from the market and eventually pushing out an update to all phones to disable tethering apps and put up a paywall?

So now its about the cheaper option.

What is cheaper letting people run a muck with data or shut down that data stream?

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I hear what czerdrill and the others are saying. Just because I disagree with their tethering plan does not authorize me to tether for.free. old saying: two wrongs don't make a right. If all of us are passionate about their unfair plan then getting on the email and phones is more justified than illegal tethering. It's hard to get on the phone and argue with VZW about them gouging if we are using tethering for free according to what we signed on the tos. We all know its not right which is why none of us will call VZW and tell them we tether for.free every month and will continue doing so until they change their plan.

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So they can track data sent from the phone to laptop or PC? Hmm don't transfer anything through USB cable to PC that you have downloaded with phone that would be stealing?

Give me a break.

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I'm sorry, but with this quote alone, you lost any and all credibility.

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So why is it that there line of defense is to remove the apps from market, if they truly can tell who tethers and who doesn't why not shut them down?

The fact is they can't prove who does and doesn't.

Trust me if they knew all tethered phones would know it.

Like I said think what you want. Believe vzw when they say they know who you are.

Such mindless creatures.

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What do you think is cheaper? Sending an e-mail to each tetherer and field calls and e-mails of denials? Or pulling the tethering apps from the market and eventually pushing out an update to all phones to disable tethering apps and put up a paywall?

So now its about the cheaper option.

What is cheaper letting people run a muck with data or shut down that data stream?

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Well right now their network is able to handle the extra bandwidth used by tetherers so it costs them nothing at the moment.
 
Real story: When Froyo was first released for the OG Droid, I noticed under "Settings -> Wireless & Networks" there was a new choice: "Tether." It worked fine if you were on a WiFi network, but if you were on a 3G connection, and you tried to access the web it took you to a page telling you this was an extra service you had to pay for.

So I called the number on that page because I was perfectly willing to pay for it (never know when you might need it, right?). Here's the thing: NO ONE I SPOKE TO AT VERIZON KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!

I was bounced from one department to the next. I tried to explain... this was THEIR phone. I had just installed an update THEY sent me. It took me to a page hosted on THEIR servers. No one knew what I was talking about!!

Finally they transferred me to someone at (ready for this??) GOOGLE!! The person I spoke to there is the one who told me about PDANet! So I downloaded it, installed it, and voila! USB Tethering without any additional charge!

And I agree with those who say "Data is data." It doesn't matter how it is accessed, you are paying for unlimited data, you should GET unlimited data. Put it this way... if I pay for a gallon of gasoline, am I charged any different if that gasoline is pumped into a car, a motorcycle, or a can? NO! I paid for a gallon of gasoline and I GET a gallon of gasoline. PERIOD! No gas station charges you differently for whatever you put that gallon of gasoline into. Data should be the same.

I use gasoline in my analogy because NOBODY is ripping off the consumer the way the oil and gas industry is right now, and even THEY have their limits.
 
Real story: When Froyo was first released for the OG Droid, I noticed under "Settings -> Wireless & Networks" there was a new choice: "Tether." It worked fine if you were on a WiFi network, but if you were on a 3G connection, and you tried to access the web it took you to a page telling you this was an extra service you had to pay for.

So I called the number on that page because I was perfectly willing to pay for it (never know when you might need it, right?). Here's the thing: NO ONE I SPOKE TO AT VERIZON KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!

I was bounced from one department to the next. I tried to explain... this was THEIR phone. I had just installed an update THEY sent me. It took me to a page hosted on THEIR servers. No one knew what I was talking about!!

Finally they transferred me to someone at (ready for this??) GOOGLE!! The person I spoke to there is the one who told me about PDANet! So I downloaded it, installed it, and voila! USB Tethering without any additional charge!

I love this story. How long ago was this? Bet it would be different if you called them now.

And I agree with those who say "Data is data." It doesn't matter how it is accessed, you are paying for unlimited data, you should GET unlimited data. Put it this way... if I pay for a gallon of gasoline, am I charged any different if that gasoline is pumped into a car, a motorcycle, or a can? NO! I paid for a gallon of gasoline and I GET a gallon of gasoline. PERIOD! No gas station charges you differently for whatever you put that gallon of gasoline into. Data should be the same.

I use gasoline in my analogy because NOBODY is ripping off the consumer the way the oil and gas industry is right now, and even THEY have their limits.

I agree "data is data" also. Verizon made a mistake when they offered the unlimited plan. Now, they realized this is not sustainable and keeping their profit margin. It will be totally bogus if Verizon charges for tethering when they introduce their tiered data plans.
 
You know what is interesting is that I will probably get bit by this. I use a max of 1 gig a month but usually stay in the 500-600 mb area a month I tether maybe once a week since most of the places I go have wifi and steaming video sucks since it will take it 5min to buffer a 2min video on verizons 3g network.

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When was Froyo first release OTA to the Droid? This happened about a month after that. I was in a hotel WITHOUT WiFi and I needed to connect my laptop to the internet to access some sites that don't work well on a phone.
 
So they can track data sent from the phone to laptop or PC? Hmm don't transfer anything through USB cable to PC that you have downloaded with phone that would be stealing?

Give me a break.

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I'm sorry, but with this quote alone, you lost any and all credibility.

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And I don't really care what you think. It was to make a point. Read the whole bit before you call me stupid again.

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Please calm down people. This is a good discussion and I don't want to have to close this thread.

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Please calm down people. This is a good discussion and I don't want to have to close this thread.

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Well said. I just can't for the life of me figure out why those that think you talk about tethering and you do it that everyone thinks you assume it is ok, and wants to say vzw knows what you are doing.

If there goal is to eliminate tethering and can tell who is doing it why they would tiptoe around the issue, and not suspend your service. After all the allegations are it's harder on the system, and you are stealing.

The slinging of its in your TOS you would think that since you are in breech of that it would be noted that they can suspend you without warning.

At least that is what the Guy from Verizon said. The suspension part.

I'm just saying

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Bull

Well I think personally its crap because we are the ones who have to pay the bill. People that own there devices (Everyone) Should be able to use and abuse any services he or she are paying for. Either way it goes Verizon taking the app off the market will not stop people from getting it. There are a trillion different ways of doing what we want when we want and how. Verizon is getting cheap and very abusive...get it together please?
 
Also your not stealing, how is it stealing if you are paying for the service? That is stupid right there...I pay 165 a month and verizon gets there panties in a bunch. I am stealing? Seriously?
 
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