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VZW disabling tethering apps from market

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Well, people downloading mp3's do so at their own risk. RIAA can and has gone after people for thousands of dollars. VZW could do the same if they ever chose to make an example of some heavy tethers. Hitting them with a bill for thousands of dollars and then using the courts to enforce collection.
 
VZW has, by the way, mentioned potentially selling "buckets" of data that can be used across multiple devices.

But that is a challenge, as well, since some people only need data for their smartphone. At $10/gig, that could benefit some who use less than 2gigs, if they want to take that risk.

Personally, I'm pretty satisfied with $30 for unlimited with no tether (obviously I feel like $20-$25 is a more reasonable price). Granted I use less than 1gig a month, so maybe I actually would prefer $30 for 3gigs including tether.
 
And I say again if you step back and look mp3 transfer was just sure to stop. That is what they wanted you to believe. Now you can get them for free.
(Mp3 to be replaced with tether for those having hard time understanding)

I know it is probably before most of your time so I made reference to Sony's PSP.

They have been trying to stop custom firmware for years.

(Custom firmware being similar to tether. You know what they are trying to get rid of)

Which shows that unless vzw has a lot smarter people than Sony tether is far from finished.

As far as a cap on data do you think that will stop tethering? I bet they will still offer an unlimited plan, and if they don't I'm guessing that all the to the cloud and over the net things like updates will stop for android phones. I don't think you will Google will like that as they to want to sell there product. I for one will not use a phone or service that will barely allow me to turn on my phone. But I guess you will be ok with that.

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Verizon has already announced that eventually they will get rid of the unlimited data plan. Verizon may not be able to stop tethering but on the tiered data plan, they will definitely get the money for the data you use no matter what kind of tethering hack you use.
 
Well, people downloading mp3's do so at their own risk. RIAA can and has gone after people for thousands of dollars. VZW could do the same if they ever chose to make an example of some heavy tethers. Hitting them with a bill for thousands of dollars and then using the courts to enforce collection.

Now we are getting somewhere. If vzw has a foolproof way to tell that you tether, and can whenever they wanted to, hit someone with thousands of dollars don't you think this would be a more effective way to put a stop to it? Seems like 4 or 5 people getting hit with that would send a big message.
not hey lets remove the app from the market and hope they don't know how to use Google to find a download link.

That mans as of yet vzw is unable to prove the data accessed by the phone is actually going to the laptop.

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And I say again if you step back and look mp3 transfer was just sure to stop. That is what they wanted you to believe. Now you can get them for free.
(Mp3 to be replaced with tether for those having hard time understanding)

I know it is probably before most of your time so I made reference to Sony's PSP.

They have been trying to stop custom firmware for years.

(Custom firmware being similar to tether. You know what they are trying to get rid of)

Which shows that unless vzw has a lot smarter people than Sony tether is far from finished.

As far as a cap on data do you think that will stop tethering? I bet they will still offer an unlimited plan, and if they don't I'm guessing that all the to the cloud and over the net things like updates will stop for android phones. I don't think you will Google will like that as they to want to sell there product. I for one will not use a phone or service that will barely allow me to turn on my phone. But I guess you will be ok with that.

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Verizon has already announced that eventually they will get rid of the unlimited data plan. Verizon may not be able to stop tethering but on the tiered data plan, they will definitely get the money for the data you use no matter what kind of tethering hack you use.

Another good point. You will still be able to use a tether app it simply will not go away.

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Off topic (as if it has been there for some time now. Guilty I know)

It is funny how everything on phones go up with little or no pay increase except data.

I mean back in 1995 my bag phone had roaming charges and limited minutes.
Texting hit started out limited.

Now all that is unlimited but minutes and now we have unlimited mobile to any mobile.
Maybe the my circle, or whatever vzw called it still exist.

What makes data so important that the price goes up for less usage?

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I couldn't care less right now because there's no way I'm ever using my EVDO phone to tether any significant amount. I use probably around 1GB a month right now. Once LTE comes out, which is probably 10x faster on average, I will probably tether more often. But tethering will never replace a home network.
 
Off topic (as if it has been there for some time now. Guilty I know)

It is funny how everything on phones go up with little or no pay increase except data.

I mean back in 1995 my bag phone had roaming charges and limited minutes.
Texting hit started out limited.

Now all that is unlimited but minutes and now we have unlimited mobile to any mobile.
Maybe the my circle, or whatever vzw called it still exist.

What makes data so important that the price goes up for less usage?

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bandwidth costs money and is not unlimited...
 
Now we are getting somewhere. If vzw has a foolproof way to tell that you tether, and can whenever they wanted to, hit someone with thousands of dollars don't you think this would be a more effective way to put a stop to it?

Not the best approach to customer relations. RIAA and VZW are significantly different in terms of the direct relationship with customers and also competition (RIAA doesn't have to worry about customers going to another "carrier", it's an industry association rather than a single business).

AT&T sent out letters, so obviously they can and do have a way to identify tetherers. AT&T also threatened to hit them with charges or terminate the contract. I'm not sure why you're so hung-up on VZW not being able to tell this - every device has a unique MAC address so it should be pretty easy to tell when you tether. How else do you think they monitor actual tether data usage officially through their plan?
 
Off topic (as if it has been there for some time now. Guilty I know)

It is funny how everything on phones go up with little or no pay increase except data.

I mean back in 1995 my bag phone had roaming charges and limited minutes.
Texting hit started out limited.

Now all that is unlimited but minutes and now we have unlimited mobile to any mobile.
Maybe the my circle, or whatever vzw called it still exist.

What makes data so important that the price goes up for less usage?

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bandwidth costs money and is not unlimited...

Roaming cost money but it bumped to unlimited.

Bandwidth not being unlimited is just a ay to make money.

Cable and DSL are unlimited. Far different from mobile I know, but holds true that unlimited is possible. If mobile broadband is not capable of unlimited it shouldn't be offered as unlimited.

Vzw sees the mistake it made for whatever reasons money, lack of hardware etc. Now they want to fix it.

Back on point. Go to WWW.google.com and do a search for your favorite app and you shall find it.

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C'mon y'all. It's Saturday night. Go to a bar. Go dancing. Go on a date. Something. I at least have an excuse, I'm married with a five year old. Just get off the net for a bit. :D
 
what ISP provides unlimited bandwidth? Seriously? There is no ISP at least in the US that advertises unlimited bandwidth or that will let you go crazy without warning you. Are the caps much higher then mobile? Of course...that should be obvious. But unlimited? LOL...seriously?
 
hmm

Where I live, dial up is the only way I can connect to my internet, other than my phone. I have pdanet which works fine and I've never had complaints. Wireless is easier, and more convenient and is why I prefer it. Now most new smart phones offer both wired and wireless tethering at $20 a month. In my opinion, ridiculous. Through pdanet, I pay a one time fee and no complaints from vzw. However, it becomes a problem when wireless comes into the equation. I could understand if people actually use it as a hotspot where other users tap into it but in my experience that is very rare. More than one person using the hotspot is too slow to serve any valuable purpose. When I pay $30 a month for the unlimited data plan i find it hard to pay another $20 a month to just have access to wireless tethering. The cell companies already overcharge for what they offer. Don't get me wrong, I could not live without my Dinc but is hard to know that i'm paying for services that are making these companies sooo much money and they are still trying to find ways to make more, off services that SHOULD be included in the data plan.
 
Now we are getting somewhere. If vzw has a foolproof way to tell that you tether, and can whenever they wanted to, hit someone with thousands of dollars don't you think this would be a more effective way to put a stop to it?

Not the best approach to customer relations. RIAA and VZW are significantly different in terms of the direct relationship with customers and also competition (RIAA doesn't have to worry about customers going to another "carrier", it's an industry association rather than a single business).

AT&T sent out letters, so obviously they can and do have a way to identify tetherers. AT&T also threatened to hit them with charges or terminate the contract. I'm not sure why you're so hung-up on VZW not being able to tell this - every device has a unique MAC address so it should be pretty easy to tell when you tether. How else do you think they monitor actual tether data usage officially through their plan?

Who says they do monitor tether? Do you have proof? Do you not think possible that sees a big spike on data usage and sends out letters as a scare tactic? It seems to me if I have proof I would hit 2 or 3 people up with charges win in court set an example out of them.
Who then cares if you loose the 3 customers in what you supposedly gain in the bulk of people not tethering.

You ask why I'm so hung up on they can't prove tether. I say no proof.

Now I ask you why are you so hung up on they can.

RIAA example is not to compare with vzw, but to state the fact other fish has tried to battle something they didn't like and ultimately lost.

Yes RIAA had to worry about customers downloading illegally. The eventually lost our and most mp3s are not copy protected anymore.

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