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Features, and Bug-Fixes, and Themes, OH MY! Sapphire - 0.8.4

Just a thank you post.

I finally made the switch today from my home-brewed ESE81 to Sapphire 0.8.4. Had played with the previous builds, but it just wasn't quite where I needed for day to day business use. Finally had some time today (slow Friday at the office, lol), and loaded it up. Did all the needed tweaks (removing extra apk's beyond what scriptybox removes, my bootanimation, setting up all my settings for everything, etc.
Everything works great, Quadrant scores are up over 1200, phone is lightning fast, looks perfect with the Black Bar theme.
Still undecided on wether or not I'll stick with CompCache (seems like a lot more programs automatically restart on 2.2 then they did on 2.1, aka more stuff I end up sticking on ATK's Ignore list, so memory's a little tighter). No real difference I can see with speed using it, however I understand its functionality and the benefit it offers in the background. For now it'll stay on.

The only gripe I have is still the volume rocker (Volume -> Vibrate -> Silent) but I know that was Google being idiots, and I'm sure you guys will fix it eventually. For now I'll live with just Silent as I use that more often then vibrate, and in IT meetings most everyone just keeps their phones on the lowest volume setting anyway lol.

So, after that long rant, just wanted to say thanks again. Looking forward to 0.9 (which I'm assuming will be once the official Moto build hits).
 
TRIKOTRET said:
Im curious is it better to have more free space or it doesnt matter. should it make a difference if u had 50mb or 70mb free space
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What a sticky question. The default free mem amount where Android will start killing apps to maintain a certain threshold of free RAM is 34MB (or is it 24???). Obviously the more programs you have loaded to system, the less free system space....

but *if* you are asking about the memfree commands, in all honesty those are a complete FARCE. ANYONE who tells you that it is better to have 50, 75 or 100MB free at all times has absolutely NO understanding of Linux memory management (let the hate replies begin). The setting of memfree to something higher than the default within Android OS will do the following for you .... it will maintain that 50MB or 100MB free number by killing off applications far more frequently than it should. What's the point of keeping 100MB free at all times if it means killing off an plication you just used and plan to go back to in a couple minutes? A lot of engineering and programming time went into coming up with the number Google is using, and some ROM roller who thinks he has a better understanding of Linux memory management than the people writing the OS do needs to get over themselves.

While I cannot tell if cvpcs will comment about this himself, the freemem command in Sapphire is only there to placate people who would complain if it wasn't there. "It was in BB", "UD has it" etc.

If you are not asking about the freemem command, please disregard the above two paragraphs. ;)
 
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Gearhead Geek said:
So, after that long rant, just wanted to say thanks again. Looking forward to 0.9 (which I'm assuming will be once the official Moto build hits).
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With Sapphire being built from source, Motos builds don't have much of a effect. Yes it will be an update to the drivers and such, but 0.9.0 should be here before official 2.2. Don't quote me on it though. :)

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I'm experiencing quite a bit of battery drain with the new sapphire and my wifi and phone signal are weaker than they used to be. Had a full charge at 2 am and 15% 6 hours later and it was turned off that entire time while i slept. The only widgets i use are news/weather and digital clock by maize. Could this be a kernel issue? I'm using the kernel recommended on the wiki. Thanks.
 
Tanknspank said:
Gearhead Geek said:
So, after that long rant, just wanted to say thanks again. Looking forward to 0.9 (which I'm assuming will be once the official Moto build hits).
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With Sapphire being built from source, Motos builds don't have much of a effect. Yes it will be an update to the drivers and such, but 0.9.0 should be here before official 2.2. Don't quote me on it though. :)

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
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Oh I'm well aware the official builds are only used for driver updates and such (and in the case of the official release, the official baseband update). I only meant that in saying 0.8.4 is plenty stable, and there probably won't be a NEED for a release until the next official build :)

I mean the only real issue I have with it (besides the volume rocker thing, as I stated), is the ##PROGRAM menu, but honestly that's not a big deal, and I know that's going to be a bit of a PITA to get going.
 
If I remember right (and belive me I have a bad mem lol) cvpcs once told me he hopes. 1.0 will be the official moto build. Regaurding the memfree question. When I. Update to a new sapphire I begin working and deleting all non essential apps from/system and after I clear them and their data I end up with about 115-120mb free at most times w/o the memfree scripts. Now I'm no computer expert by any means but it does seem my phone is a hellofa lot snappier than straigt after thw update.
Maybe its in my head, maybe not. But ill continue to delete and speed this rom up, (I get some of the highest quad scores) plus its real fun doin it lol
 
just tried sapphire for the first time. i think it was the smoothest install i've ever had, smoother than official 2.1, leaked 2.2, and even SS44 (which is still a very nice rom!).

the default kernel only has slots for 125 and 400, when i usually ran at 250 for a min. what do you guys prefer?

does anyone know if the nfl mobile app requires 3g signal? i get no signal where i live, but it will not load on wifi. i did not get the error about needing verizon though, it just sits there blinking loading.

that was the only issue i had, and it may not even be a sapphire thing. every other app loaded great, and so far my camera seems to be a lot snappier than it was in either the leaked frf84b or Ss44.
 
brochaos said:
just tried sapphire for the first time. i think it was the smoothest install i've ever had, smoother than official 2.1, leaked 2.2, and even SS44 (which is still a very nice rom!).

the default kernel only has slots for 125 and 400, when i usually ran at 250 for a min. what do you guys prefer?

does anyone know if the nfl mobile app requires 3g signal? i get no signal where i live, but it will not load on wifi. i did not get the error about needing verizon though, it just sits there blinking loading.

that was the only issue i had, and it may not even be a sapphire thing. every other app loaded great, and so far my camera seems to be a lot snappier than it was in either the leaked frf84b or Ss44.
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I used to think 125 was too low, and on eclair it was unusable, but I was shown the light and I have my sleep/charge mins at 125 now. No problems at all.

Re: nfl mobile, no clue.
 
cool, i put it at 125 too, but i don't receive many phone calls, and was just worried about it being able to wake up for one.
 
pdroid said:
brochaos said:
just tried sapphire for the first time. i think it was the smoothest install i've ever had, smoother than official 2.1, leaked 2.2, and even SS44 (which is still a very nice rom!).

the default kernel only has slots for 125 and 400, when i usually ran at 250 for a min. what do you guys prefer?

does anyone know if the nfl mobile app requires 3g signal? i get no signal where i live, but it will not load on wifi. i did not get the error about needing verizon though, it just sits there blinking loading.

that was the only issue i had, and it may not even be a sapphire thing. every other app loaded great, and so far my camera seems to be a lot snappier than it was in either the leaked frf84b or Ss44.
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I used to think 125 was too low, and on eclair it was unusable, but I was shown the light and I have my sleep/charge mins at 125 now. No problems at all.

Re: nfl mobile, no clue.
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Didn't I have something to do with that? :)
brochaos said:
cool, i put it at 125 too, but i don't receive many phone calls, and was just worried about it being able to wake up for one.
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Froyo handles 125Mhz way better than Eclair did. You shouldn't see any issues with answer phone calls after the screen being off for a while.
 
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