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Thunderbolt General Discussion - This is Not A Release Date Discussion

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Ahh I'm done with it. Bought a Droid X on ebay last night, gonna use that, root it, overclock it and rom it till something REALLY good comes out...specifically when the technology catches up, LTE and dual-core both. Till next time, mysterious, elusive Thunderbolt...

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Maybe somebody will call me an unreasonable optimist, but what if they release the TB with a PRL that excludes or blocks 4g and push it down to 3g, figure out the issues, then open up 4g OTA via a PRL push when they're ready?
 
Leaving big blue for big red was a big mistake on my part.... Verizon is so cocky and gloats about their LTE and they cant even get it right...

#TeamRed : (
 
Leaving big blue for big red was a big mistake on my part.... Verizon is so cocky and gloats about their LTE and they cant even get it right...

#TeamRed : (



Funny that the LTE aircards work fine....


The issue may be the phones are not able to handle those speeds with out an increase in power output, hence the possible poor battery life experienced by the TB. Motorola and HTc are probably experiencing similar problems, TB is under more pressure cause they suppose to be the "first".
 
Leaving big blue for big red was a big mistake on my part.... Verizon is so cocky and gloats about their LTE and they cant even get it right...

#TeamRed : (



Funny that the LTE aircards work fine....


The issue may be the phones are not able to handle those speeds with out an increase in power output, hence the possible poor battery life experienced by the TB. Motorola and HTc are probably experiencing similar problems, TB is under more pressure cause they suppose to be the "first".



Well if that's the case then HTC is totally to blame. Verizon knew the power requirements for an LTE radio before they signed off on HTC making the TB. No way they kept that info private... also, we all knew LTE "could" end up using more power, yet HTC decided that 1400 mAH would be enough???

I don't think there are any issues with LTE that were not previously known. Its not like Verizon has officially delayed anything anyway... its still Q1...
 
Funny that the LTE aircards work fine....


The issue may be the phones are not able to handle those speeds with out an increase in power output, hence the possible poor battery life experienced by the TB. Motorola and HTc are probably experiencing similar problems, TB is under more pressure cause they suppose to be the "first".



Well if that's the case then HTC is totally to blame. Verizon knew the power requirements for an LTE radio before they signed off on HTC making the TB. No way they kept that info private... also, we all knew LTE "could" end up using more power, yet HTC decided that 1400 mAH would be enough???

I don't think there are any issues with LTE that were not previously known. Its not like Verizon has officially delayed anything anyway... its still Q1...

To be honest I think there is enough blame to go around. Both vzw and htc will feel it. But HTC could suffer more because the longer this is drawn out the more fans decide to go with another device.
 
Just a question stemming from my curiosity.
Hope I'm being general enough.

For all of those endlessly complaining about what VZW and HTC are CURRENTLY doing.

"What would you do if you were in their shoes?"

PLEASE NOTE I SAID "CURRENTLY" and "do" not "done".
 
Just a question stemming from my curiosity.
Hope I'm being general enough.

For all of those endlessly complaining about what VZW and HTC are CURRENTLY doing.

"What would you do if you were in their shoes?"

PLEASE NOTE I SAID "CURRENTLY" and "do" not "done".


Got out in front and be upfront so no one is speculating for us. I understand confidentiality but there are ways for a company to keep the users up to date by telling them "need to know" info only.
 
Got out in front and be upfront so no one is speculating for us. I understand confidentiality but there are ways for a company to keep the users up to date by telling them "need to know" info only.

Who decides what "need to know" info is?


Need to know info can be jointly decided. If you know you are having issues that may cause a delay both could post on their respective pages "we are currently working on a few minor technical details. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience it has caused our customers. We are working as hard and as fast as we can to ensure the customer will get a quality device that we are known for producing. We will keep you up to date with more information as soon as we can . Thanks again "

^that is how you get in front of it and not allow bloggers to take here say from "sources" and potentially run off customers.
 
Got out in front and be upfront so no one is speculating for us. I understand confidentiality but there are ways for a company to keep the users up to date by telling them "need to know" info only.

Who decides what "need to know" info is?


Need to know info can be jointly decided. If you know you are having issues that may cause a delay both could post on their respective pages "we are currently working on a few minor technical details. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience it has caused our customers. We are working as hard and as fast as we can to ensure the customer will get a quality device that we are known for producing. We will keep you up to date with more information as soon as we can . Thanks again "

^that is how you get in front of it and not allow bloggers to take here say from "sources" and potentially run off customers.

That is not really much different then what they did post:

Hey fans, we appreciate all the excitement about the anticipated launch of the ThunderBolt by HTC. We're excited too! Verizon 4G LTE is America’s fastest, most advanced 4G network & we want to ensure the advanced technology behind our first 4G LTE phone is flawless. We will announce its release date as soon as it is confirmed. Thanks for your support & patience while we work to bring you the ThunderBolt by HTC.
 
Need to know info can be jointly decided. If you know you are having issues that may cause a delay both could post on their respective pages "we are currently working on a few minor technical details. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience it has caused our customers. We are working as hard and as fast as we can to ensure the customer will get a quality device that we are known for producing. We will keep you up to date with more information as soon as we can . Thanks again "

^that is how you get in front of it and not allow bloggers to take here say from "sources" and potentially run off customers.

I'm not sure that releasing a statement about a "few minor technical issues" would do anything but throw water on an oil fire.

VZW "Hey fans, we appreciate all the excitement about the anticipated launch of the ThunderBolt by HTC. We're excited too! Verizon 4G LTE is America’s fastest, most advanced 4G network & we want to ensure the advanced technology behind our first 4G LTE phone is flawless. We will announce its release date as soon as it is confirmed. Thanks for your support & patience while we work to bring you the ThunderBolt by HTC."

That statement was released on Feb 28th. I have yet to see a decrease in complaints, blogging or speculation.

Just my POV.
 
Need to know info can be jointly decided. If you know you are having issues that may cause a delay both could post on their respective pages "we are currently working on a few minor technical details. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience it has caused our customers. We are working as hard and as fast as we can to ensure the customer will get a quality device that we are known for producing. We will keep you up to date with more information as soon as we can . Thanks again "

^that is how you get in front of it and not allow bloggers to take here say from "sources" and potentially run off customers.

I'm not sure that releasing a statement about a "few minor technical issues" would do anything but throw water on an oil fire.

VZW "Hey fans, we appreciate all the excitement about the anticipated launch of the ThunderBolt by HTC. We're excited too! Verizon 4G LTE is America’s fastest, most advanced 4G network & we want to ensure the advanced technology behind our first 4G LTE phone is flawless. We will announce its release date as soon as it is confirmed. Thanks for your support & patience while we work to bring you the ThunderBolt by HTC."

That statement was released on Feb 28th. I have yet to see a decrease in complaints, blogging or speculation.

Just my POV.

This is where I think a lot of outrage is coming from. First we hear from a blog page that the Tb had battery issues. Then the battery issue is fixed so people want to know why it isnt released.
People see this with comments from a vzw rep, which I must admit I have not read entirely but intend on doing so, Verizon Working Through LTE Issues, First Phones Before “Second Half of the Year” - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

^ that causes speculation that its not a htc issue but a vzw issue. But then we see this: Samsung Stealth Caught in the Wild | TechnoBuffalo

Now you wondering is it truly a vzw lte issue, still a htc issue, or is vzw delaying it intentionally to deal with pricing changes. Personally I have no problem waiting because the later it releases the more I get to see the bionic and other devices. But I can understand people's concerns especially if you reserved one at best buy. Yes vzw and htc do not owe us any thing as as far as a device that has not been released yet. But I do think HTC will take the biggest hit for the delay.
 
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